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Sums, Products, and Growth of Sets

Sums, Products, and Growth of Sets

Oliver Roche-Newton (ORCID: 0000-0002-1640-3707)
  • Grant DOI 10.55776/P34180
  • Funding program Principal Investigator Projects
  • Status ended
  • Start March 1, 2021
  • End February 28, 2025
  • Funding amount € 397,708
  • Project website
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Disciplines

Mathematics (100%)

Keywords

    Sum Product Estimates, Growth, Elementary Methods

Abstract Final report

Addition and multiplication are two of the first mathematical concepts that we learn about as young children, and one might expect that we know everything that there is to know about these two simple operations. However, for many of the most famous open problems in mathematics, there is an interaction between the two operations which is difficult to get a grip on. Take for instance the Goldbach Conjecture, which states that any even integer greater than 2 can be written as a sum of two primes. The basic object we are working with here is the set P of all prime numbers, which is defined via the concept of multiplication. We then ask an additive question about this set: does the set P+P of all sums of pairs of primes contain the set of all (sufficiently large) even integers? We call P+P the sum set of P. Moreover, given any set A of integers, we can consider its sum set A+A. The set of all products of pairs of elements from A is called the product set, and denoted AA. This project is primarily concerned with the sum-product problem. Roughly speaking, we would like to show that at least one of A+A or AA is large, no matter what set A we start with. To get an idea about this we can consider some simple examples. What kind of set might we construct in order to try and make A+A small? We need to enforce that A+A contains a fairly small number of elements that repeat many times. We could take A={1,2,,100}, which gives A+A={2,3,,200}. In this example, the sum set is about twice as large as the original set, and it turns out that the sum set is always at least twice the size of the original set (minus one). More generally, we could take A to be an arithmetic progression of any size, and we will reach the same conclusion that the sum set is slightly less than twice the size of the original set; the smallest it can possibly be. But in such situations as above where A is an arithmetic progression, it turns out that the product set AA will be rather large, with very few repetitions occurring. So, according to these examples at least, it appears that, if the sum set is small then the product set will be large. A similar situation occurs if we reverse the roles of addition and multiplication. The sets which have minimal sized product sets are geometric progressions. However, if A is a geometric progression then A+A is very large indeed. These extreme cases motivate a more general conjecture of Erdos and Szemerédi, which claims that at least one of A+A or AA is close to the maximum possible size for any finite set of integers A. After 38 years, this question remains wide open. The Erdos-Szemerédi Conjecture lies at the heart of this project, and the basic goal is to improve our understanding of this conjecture, including making new quantitative progress. We will also consider several interesting and important problems of a similar spirit, such getting strong bounds in the case when the product set is very small.

Conflict between notions of additive and multiplicative structure is a repeating theme in major open problems in mathematics. This conflict arises itself in the Twin Prime Conjecture, the Goldbach Conjecture and the abc Conjecture, amongst other problems, and it lies at the very heart of the field of sum-product theory: to summarise this area as succinctly as possible, one may say that sum-product type results are characterised as statements proving that additive and multiplicative structure cannot coexist. Let's be a little more specific. Given a finite set of n numbers, we can form their sum set by taking all pairs from the set and taking their sum. The product set is defined similarly. How large can these new sets be? Are they necessarily much larger than the original set? By taking the original set to be an arithmetic progression, we arrive at an example whereby the sum set is not much bigger than the original set (the set essentially doubles in size, which is the smallest possible growth). However, in this case, the product set turns out to be very large. Conversely, we can restrict the growth of the product set by taking our initial set to be a geometric prpgression, but in this case the sum set is very large. This motivates a beautiful open problem of Erds and Szemerédi; show that, for any given initial set, at least one of the sum set or product set is very large. There has been considerable progress on this problem in the last 50 years since it was first stated, but the precise quantitative solution to the full conjecture remains out of reach. We have considered many variations and generalisations of this problem during this project. A key theme has been to better understand the relationship between convexity and additive structure. Some new elementary arguments have given some progress here. In particular, the method of "squeezing" has been developed and applied during the time of this project with strong results. The relationship with problems in discrete geometry was also explored, and one of the highlights was a quantitative breakthrough concerning the number of distinct dot products determined by a point set in the plane.

Research institution(s)
  • Österreichische Akademie der Wissenschaften - 100%
Project participants
  • Arne Winterhof, national collaboration partner
  • Sophie Stevens, Österreichische Akademie der Wissenschaften , national collaboration partner
International project participants
  • Igor Shparlinski, University of New South Wales - Australia
  • Ilya Shkredov, Steklov Mathematical Institute - Russia
  • Brandon Hanson, University of Maine - USA

Research Output

  • 36 Citations
  • 20 Publications
  • 1 Disseminations
  • 1 Scientific Awards
  • 1 Fundings
Publications
  • 2024
    Title Convexity, Squeezing, and the Elekes-Szab Theorem
    DOI 10.37236/11331
    Type Journal Article
    Author Roche-Newton O
    Journal The Electronic Journal of Combinatorics
  • 2024
    Title Incidences of Cubic Curves in Finite Fields
    DOI 10.37236/12185
    Type Journal Article
    Author Warren A
    Journal The Electronic Journal of Combinatorics
  • 2025
    Title A Note on a Problem of Erds About Rich Distances
    DOI 10.1556/012.2025.04332
    Type Journal Article
    Author Bhowmick K
    Journal Studia Scientiarum Mathematicarum Hungarica
  • 2025
    Title A Lower Bound for the Number of Pinned Angles Determined by a Cartesian Product Set
    DOI 10.1007/s00493-025-00135-5
    Type Journal Article
    Author Roche-Newton O
    Journal Combinatorica
    Pages 13
    Link Publication
  • 2021
    Title Higher Convexity and Iterated Sum Sets
    DOI 10.1007/s00493-021-4578-6
    Type Journal Article
    Author Hanson B
    Journal Combinatorica
    Pages 71-85
  • 2021
    Title Four-term progression free sets with three-term progressions in all large subsets
    DOI 10.1002/rsa.21042
    Type Journal Article
    Author Pohoata C
    Journal Random Structures & Algorithms
    Pages 749-770
    Link Publication
  • 2021
    Title Additive and multiplicative Sidon sets
    DOI 10.1007/s10474-021-01160-8
    Type Journal Article
    Author Roche-Newton O
    Journal Acta Mathematica Hungarica
    Pages 326-336
    Link Publication
  • 2022
    Title Incidences of Möbius Transformations in Fp
    DOI 10.1007/s00454-022-00442-4
    Type Journal Article
    Author Warren A
    Journal Discrete & Computational Geometry
    Pages 1025-1037
  • 2024
    Title Convexity, sumsets and discrete geometry
    Type PhD Thesis
    Author Krishnendu Bhowmick
    Link Publication
  • 2023
    Title Line Sidon Sets
    Type Journal Article
    Author Patry
    Journal Integers
    Link Publication
  • 2023
    Title Local differences determined by convex sets
    Type Journal Article
    Author Bhowmick
    Journal Integers
    Link Publication
  • 2021
    Title Attaining the Exponent 5/4 for the Sum-Product Problem in Finite Fields
    DOI 10.1093/imrn/rnab338
    Type Journal Article
    Author Mohammadi A
    Journal International Mathematics Research Notices
    Pages 3516-3532
    Link Publication
  • 2021
    Title Sums, Products, and Growth
    Type Postdoctoral Thesis
    Author Oliver Roche-Newton
  • 2023
    Title A point-conic incidence bound and applications over F p
    DOI 10.1016/j.ejc.2022.103596
    Type Journal Article
    Author Mohammadi A
    Journal European Journal of Combinatorics
    Pages 103596
    Link Publication
  • 2023
    Title Convexity, superquadratic growth, and dot products
    DOI 10.1112/jlms.12728
    Type Journal Article
    Author Hanson B
    Journal Journal of the London Mathematical Society
    Pages 1900-1923
    Link Publication
  • 2024
    Title Counting Arcs in Fq2
    DOI 10.1007/s00454-023-00622-w
    Type Journal Article
    Author Bhowmick K
    Journal Discrete & Computational Geometry
    Pages 1630-1646
    Link Publication
  • 2024
    Title Convexity, Elementary Methods, and Distances
    DOI 10.1007/s00454-023-00625-7
    Type Journal Article
    Author Roche-Newton O
    Journal Discrete & Computational Geometry
    Pages 437-446
    Link Publication
  • 2024
    Title Large convex sets in difference sets
    DOI 10.1112/mtk.12263
    Type Journal Article
    Author Bhowmick K
    Journal Mathematika
    Link Publication
  • 2024
    Title A better than exponent for iterated sums and products over
    DOI 10.1017/s0305004124000112
    Type Journal Article
    Author Roche–Newton O
    Journal Mathematical Proceedings of the Cambridge Philosophical Society
    Pages 11-22
  • 2022
    Title A convex set with a rich difference
    DOI 10.1007/s10474-022-01286-3
    Type Journal Article
    Author Roche-Newton O
    Journal Acta Mathematica Hungarica
Disseminations
  • 2022
    Title JKU Young Scientists Program
    Type A formal working group, expert panel or dialogue
Scientific Awards
  • 2022
    Title ÖMG Förderungspreis
    Type Research prize
    Level of Recognition National (any country)
Fundings
  • 2024
    Title The Elekes-Szabó Problem
    Type Research grant (including intramural programme)
    Start of Funding 2024
    Funder Austrian Science Fund (FWF)

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